HomeOwners for Better Building - Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

Rumple Stiltskin

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Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« on: August 27, 2007, 01:54:37 pm »

Not honoring valid new house warranty claims is not much more than stealing equity from new house buyers. A subtle form of theft.


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Rumple Stiltskin

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 02:14:09 pm »

Why not escrow money at closing, or hold the title insurance company accountable, to ensure that corporate/public new house builders are forced to satisfactorily honor their new house warranty? No band-aid fixes, no outright denials of valid warranty claims. No need for extended litigation. No statute of limitations/binding arbitration protection for the corporate/public new house builder. Put it into the hands of an independent third party not influenced by the corporate/public new house building industry. As this web site, and others attest, currently a new house warranty may be meaningless and very costly for the new house buyer.


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Rumple Stiltskin

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 02:29:58 pm »

Visit this web site before it is no longer available:

http://www.bewareofgemcraft.com/

And visit HADD.com, Homeowners Against Deficient Dwellings, Headline News, September 17, 2007, to read how a new house owner is being sued by Gemcraft.


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marc

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2007, 03:29:13 pm »

Quite remarkable. Again when will the madness stop, I guess when victims can either convince their elected officals this is nothing less then a crisis or vote out of office the ones that vote against all consumer friendly bills. Just my opinion.


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Rumple Stiltskin

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 05:02:11 pm »

Consumer friendly is one thing, corporate tyranny is another.

Why is the situation the way it is? Because there is no effective responsiblity and accountability for the product produced. Why not ignore valid new house warranty claims when there is no effective recourse for the new house buyer? Why improve quality control when the consequences of poor quality have few if any repercussions? Deny, delay, do nothing. Ignore or pay lip service to the claims, rely on binding arbitration for further protection, etc.

With shoddy/defective construction being viewed as an "accident" in some venues, and placing the financial burden on those who legitimately have no responsibility for the "accident", those responsible are further protected. There are accidents, and then there are accidents. There are acts of God and then there are likely predictable results of a particular business model which is evident with the situation we have today.


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Jane Doe

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 08:17:53 am »

Quote from: Rumple Stiltskin on September 17, 2007, 02:29:58 pm

I took a quick look at the site and feel that a common mistake homeowners make on these sites is using the builder's logo. That may be the only legitimate reason they have given the builder to sue them, (providing the complaint itself is true). I believe trademark infringement was an element in the lawsuit Lennar filed against Mike Morgan of defective-homes.net which Lennar now controls.

Studying information on "gripe sites" and free speech may help homeowners make a site that is less risky. Anyone can be sued frivolously for their complaint site, but at least they should strive to make sure a frivolous lawsuit will have no legal leg to stand on, so the site has more chance of survival.


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grunion

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Re: Stealing equity/larceny/subtle theft

« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 02:54:54 pm »

use a lot of my opinion and alledgedly statements and for heaven sakes, get that logo down!. I have been told my site is pretty solid. www.huttoparke.com Also get you a disclaimer up. Heck copy mine!


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