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tel builders
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posted 23 July 2005 13:28 CET
i have been having a problem with tel builders here in martinsburg west virginia!
the builder isn't fixing the problem of the homes that need the work done !
houses have leaks in them and other problems and the builder has done nothing to fix the problems!
right now tel is in court!
we as property owners have been fighting them!
and will continue to fight!
one of the owners of tel builders admitted that they used a friend to do the plumbing , whom he said did a bad job!
now we are paying for this since they are not willing to send someone out to resolve the problems!
this has been a problem since the first week of moving into our home!
i am telling people BEWARE before you purchase a home by them ! |
RGilbert
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posted 22 July 2005 23:45 CET
We live in North Carolina and I just found today rain pouring in through my bedroom window and we have been in this house less than a year. Also, I have noticed mold starting to grow between the double panes. Our house not very old, built in 2000. Help, where do I go from here? |
Gertrude Gilyard
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posted 21 July 2005 23:19 CET
I purchased a home in 11/04 from Structual Creations in Hampton, Georgia. I have called, written to them, the Ga HomeBuilder's Assn and to the City. To date, Structual Creations has not solved the problem or responded to my requests to fix all of the following; check the squeaky floors, railing coming apart from the deck, poor drainage in the front of the house and a check of the water heater. Time is running out for the one year warranty to be over. I'm disgusted and can't seem to get any help. |
Sharon Parks
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posted 20 July 2005 23:42 CET
I bought a new Arcadia home in Gilroy in 2000 in good faith. I among other homeowners are in a lawsuit against the builder for alledged building defects. It has been a nightmaare as toxic mold grew throughout my house and casued health problems along with evacation and no where to go. We have cracked foundation, exterior and interior walls, plumbing and electrical problems, water running under our houses, everything out of plumb, roof leaks and you name it. Our builder did not honor the warranty and has a binding arbitration in the contract. He has put us through Hades and back. The stress and depression has cost years off my life.
To add insult to injury the same builder is building around five hundred homes behind me.
Sincerely,
Sharon L. Parks |
Diana Balliet
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posted 20 July 2005 08:53 CET
I had a home built by General Home Developers which took over a year to build.They will NOT complete some of the items they said they would nor stand behind their warranties.Mildew,paint chip,paint fade,carpet tearing. I look forward to your reply |
Charles
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posted 19 July 2005 20:12 CET
We are in the process of determing if our builder will fix cause and results of leaking windows. Location Sienna Plantation. House built Dec 03. Does anyone a suggestion as to what type of firm we should use to inspect the windows? |
Cynthia Mahlin
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posted 19 July 2005 15:18 CET
This is a huge problem. I do not own a house with these problems. It is my experience that the political subdivision which has zoning jurisdiction over the permits and building inspections would be liable for negligence for passing and providing an occupancy permit for these houses. What do the building codes require for plumbing, for example? Any property that does not meet inspection by the local government should not be sold as a habitable struction - fraud. Contracts are breached by fraud and damages are awarded. The contracts of adhesion should not be binding on the victims of fraud. Legal action can also be instituted to pierce the corporate veil of the consecutive companies - who is in charge and who gets profits - which show the benefits go to the same parties despite the name change and paperwork. It is another form of fraud to go through these motions to avoid liability. Detrimental reliance is another area of taking action on the fact there is a contract for the sale of a habitable building which meets building code regulations. Does Texas have the uniform building code for its homes? Libraries often have a copy of this code book. The Building and Safety Department should have the records on file for each building and who the inspector was who passed the work. Don't ever explain your reasons for wanting the information, quietly compile a complete record for several people to show a pattern and sue the government in a tort action. Usually, the state statute should be looked up to comply with tort claims to be sure all that is done for jurisdiction in a suit. Hope this helps. |
Irma Figueroa
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posted 15 July 2005 14:06 CET
Wanted to know if anyone had heard of America's First Home Builder and if so, if there has been any complaints against them.
I am getting ready to lock in on a home located in Florida and am just inquiring about them. |
Rod Vega
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posted 13 July 2005 11:08 CET
I purchased a KB home and complained to them that the structure on the second floor was not sound. They have never fixed the problem. Now when you walk in my bedroom the room shakes and feels like you are going to fall thru the floor. |
George Watson
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posted 13 July 2005 08:45 CET
I am an owner of a fairly new Kimball Hill home in the Houston area. It is plagued with all kinds of defects, including cracking in the exterior walls.
I see a lot of the entries regarding K&B. I would like to alert you that Kimball Hill homes is guilty of the same violations regarding defects in the homes, and also regarding forcing the homebuyer to accept binding arbitration rather than being allowed to sue.
Perhaps the FTC should be alerted to Kimball Hill homes practices as well.
Regards,
George Watson |
Dorothy Shannon
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posted 12 July 2005 09:37 CET
hello-i've been living in my ''Lemon HOUSE'' built by ARMADILLO homes for 15 months. after the first day -i've been having complaints and treated as if ''it's your fault for not having grass in the back yard"" I've talked with the OWNER/CEO ROBERTO GUTIERREZ AND THE SAME STORY WAS TOLD-SO HE HAD GRASS PUT IN THE BACK AND NOW WAITING FOR 90 DAYS TO DECIDE TO ''BANDAID'' ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT HE SEE NOT WHAT I SAY NOR WHAT THE INPECTION COMPANY THAT I HIRED TO INSPECT THIS ''LEMON'' PRIOR TO ONE YEAR. MR.GUTIERREZ STATED THAT HE WOULD GET AN ''INDEPENDENT'' INSPECTOR TO COME IN AND INSPECT THIS ''LEMON OF A HOUSE'' AFTER 90 DAYS. EVEN THE A/C ADAPTER WAS THE WRONG SIZE AND A COPY OF MY INSPECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE COMPANY TO NO AVAIL. ON 7/11/05 I DECIDED TO PUT A SIGN IN MY FRONT YARD''LEMON HOME-FOUNDATION PROBLEMS-CANNOT BE BANDAID'' AND THAT EVENING 3 DIFFERENT HOME OWNERS IN THE ''MONTE VIEJO SUBDIVISION HAS COME BY MY LEMON HOUSE AND COMPLAINED BUT HAD LESS COMPLAINTS THAN MINE. I WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW HOW ARMADILLO HOMES HAVE BUILT THESE BAD CONSTRUCTED HOMES AND WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE HAPPY AND STUPID--WELL, I'M NEITHER HAPPY NOR STUPID. I THINK OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REAL ARMADILLO-HARD BACK AND EVERY THING ELSE SOFT-WELL, THAT'S JUST LIKE THE HOUSES-HARD SHELL BUT FALLING ALL AROUKD. |
Wilson2207
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posted 11 July 2005 18:29 CET
We got ripped-off, but you won't...
We (we, meaning my family) got ripped-off. But don't worry it won't happen to you.
At one time my attorney told me, "They (meaning Sanford/Beazer Homes)may have insurance to cover your warranty claim". This was in the context and my understanding that my attorney had spoken with a Sanford/Beazer Homes, Beazer/Sanford Homes representative.
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America supports a winner. America supports competition. America supports truth and justice. America supports fair-dealing. America frowns on winning by dubious means, dishonesty, arrogance, unfairness, and the taking advantage of the less fortunate, less capable, and less well equipped of its citizens. This is my understanding.
Let me share a story with you, that was shared with me, by a new house owner:
Beazer Homes had not yet acquired Sanford Homes. A Sanford/Beazer Homes, Beazer/Sanford Homes warranty manager told a Sanford Homes' new house owner that it was not unusual for windows to leak during a rainstorm (this is in a new house). The new house owner suspected that the window(s) had been installed incorrectly. Eventually, it was determined that the windows had been installed incorrectly, and the problem was corrected. This result was not an easy task for the new house owner to achieve.
This new house owner also had to seek legal representation to address other issues regarding his new house and related warranty matters. He sought the advice of a prestigious, construction defect law firm and was referred to another attorney/law firm, as the prestigious law firm had a conflict of interest, or some other such thing, and could not represent the house owner in his complaint against Sanford Homes. There eventually was a settlement. The new houseowner did not seem satisfied, but was grateful to have this ordeal with his builder Sanford Homes behind him (Beazer Homes had not yet acquired Sanford Homes). The house owner refused to pay the final invoice he received from his attorney. The house owner was also required to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement as a condition of this settlement.
How do I know this you may wonder? I too had to seek legal advice regarding warranty issues with Sanford Homes. I sought advice from the same prestigious, construction defect, law firm, and I too was referred to the SAME attorney who represented the new house owner above. Again, how do I know this you may wonder? A local television station had an on-air report about new house owners having warranty complaints regarding the houses they had purchased from Sanford Homes. I forwarded a transcript of this report to my attorney. A later phone conversation to confirm that my attorney had received this report, disclosed that my attorney, "had talked with", one of the Sanford Homes' homeowners mentioned in the television report. I thought that this was an amazingly unusual coincidence. There was no disclosure to me, by my attorney, regarding his representation, or former representation, of this particular new house owner, regarding the new house owner's complaints against Sanford Homes; this must have had something to do with attorney client privilege, confidentiality, etc? Or, the attorney was not, in fact, representing this house owner at the time of this phone call, or while my attorney was representing my interests. My notes could determine this precisely. Following this phone conversation, several months went by before I felt compelled to speak with this new house owner to determine the nature of this unusual coincidence (that my attorney "had talked with this homeowner") and to regain faith that MY INTERESTS were being PROPERLY REPRESENTED by my attorney. My attorney had been VERY AGGRESSIVE in trying to convince me to allow Sanford/Beazer Homes (Beazer had acquired Sanford Homes at this time) to make 'cosmetic' repairs; 'Sanford's attorney was a good litigator', etc. Not trusting my attorney, I subsequently received an independent repair estimate which exceeded $50,000 which did not reflect the 'cosmetic' nature of this issue as espoused by my attorney and Sanford/Beazer Homes; my attorney said the firm providing the estimate had a vested interest which may make the estimate questionable. The estimate was given without any disclosure to the repair company that there was an on-going dispute with Sanford/Beazer Homes. There has been no resolution of this matter.
See kbhomesucks.com, Online Discussions, User Forum, pp. 4,5, 'Choosing An Attorney', for further insight.
Do not assume that you are dealing with honorable people. Get an independent, second opinion regarding ANYTHING of substance related to your new house; however, at this point it may be too late. YOUR interests are YOUR interests, only.
Do not let the largest purchase of your family's life become a financial and emotional nightmare. How much are you willing to risk? Financial security in your retirement? Your kids' college education?
Learn from my mistake (One would not think that the purchase of a new house for one's family could possibly be a mistake.) the mistakes of other new house buyers, and the behavior of some corporate/public new house builders.
IN MY OPINION, WHICH IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, THERE IS NOT A LEGAL PRODUCT AVAILABLE IN THE MARKETPLACE TODAY THAT CARRIES THE DEGREE OF POTENTIAL FINANCIAL AND EMOTIONAL RISK FOR THE PURCHASER AS DOES THAT OF A NEW HOUSE.
Visit Homeowners Against Deficient Dwellings, HADD.com, HOBB.org, Homeowners For Better Building, WESH.com, Building Houses: Building Problems, Consumer Reports' research study: Housewrecked--link available at the HADD web site, 10 Things Your House Builder Won't Tell You, www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=tenthings-jan00, 10 Things Your Attorney Won't Tell You, www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=tenthings-october03, How To Prevent A New House Nightmare, www.lakesidepress.com/dreams/section4.html, Shoddy Building in the Housing Boom? Business Week April 25, 2003, www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/apr2003/nf20030425_1874_db035.htm, Exposing New Home Builders, exposingnewhomebuilders.typepad.com/newhomebuildersnewsblog/ (some builder specific web sites have been effectively eliminated), ourrylandhomes.com(use google.com for this one: our ryland homes), paltryhomes.com, jdpowers.com, kbhomesucks.com, kbhomestink.org, The Pulte Home Experience, www.trendzweb.com/pulte/., paylessbills.com/richmond_american.htm, drhortonlemonhome.com, drhortonsux.com, mybadhouse.com/pages/1/index.htm, Home sweet crooked house, money.cnn.com/2004/06/09/real_estate/buying_selling/homedefects/index.htm, bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/20040812a1.asp, Monday, June 21
New-home warranties not what they are cracked up to be bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/BuyerGuide2004/fthb-blog-archive.asp, webgripesites.com, mymccrearyhomesucks.com/, w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff76506.htm, Home-building report/broken system, www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050420/OPINION/504200384/1030, www.screwedcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000331.html, and ANY search engine (new house construction, lawsuits, defects, complaints, etc.), to examine the 'ISOLATED','ANECDOTAL' nature of this issue, to separate 'FACT' from 'INNUENDO', and to gain insight into the business practices of the corporate/public new house building industry, and to protect your financial and emotional interests. Reading the court cases available on-line is a good idea, too.
Your due diligence is only effective BEFORE the fact.
I wish you well.
Read more: To access the following, copy and paste the quote below into a Google search.
www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/7803801.htm
"Hovnanian's letter to the homeowners claims that 'when there is a problem, we make things right,' " Spatz said. "After several years and a long legal battle, I am still waiting for that to happen."
Believe what you want. Protect your interests before the fact. Do not make the mistake that I did. Justice delayed, justice denied?
"Freedom, democracy, rule of law, these are the safeguards for coping with human nature",Clifford May, president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. |
wilson2207
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posted 10 July 2005 21:21 CET
New house shopper, be aware...
The following is in the spirit of transparency, full disclosure, free enterprise, good corporate governance, The Ownership Society, and the freedom of the new house shopper to make an informed decision:
"Beazer Homes includes a ten year Home Builder’s Limited Warranty with the purchase of every brand new Beazer home. This Home Builder's Limited Warranty provides you peace of mind, as it is administered by Professional Warranty Service Corporation and backed by Steadfast Insurance Company, a Zurich American company, and it protects your new home from "Construction Defects" during those first ten years of home ownership. The warranty covers materials and workmanship, as outlined in the Performance Quality Standards, for the first year after the date that you close."
Reassurance?
Or, a potential pig in a poke, for the most part purchased sight unseen, with no truly effective, economically reasonable, means of recourse to protect the interests of the purchaser?
Jeopardizing your family's financial future?
With the passage of The American Dream Downpayment Act, the following is of particular importance to the vulnerable and uneducated new house shopper.
I would like to thank Sanford Homes/Beazer Homes, for providing me with the opportunity to gain the experience necessary to contribute the following message.
I would like to thank Beazer Homes/Sanford Homes, for providing me with the opportunity to gain the experience necessary to contribute the following message.
I would like to thank Sanford Homes/Beazer Homes, for providing me with the opportunity to gain the experience necessary to contribute the following message.
Consider this a public service message:
This could be the most risky purchase that you will ever make, potentially 100%+. How much are you willing to risk? Your retirement? Your kids' college education?
Write to me if you want to know about my experience with, and opinion of, Sanford Homes/Beazer Homes. wilson2207@yahoo.com
Write to me if you want to know about my experience with, and opinion of, Beazer Homes/Sanford Homes. wilson2207@yahoo.com
Before you sign a contract to purchase a new house, walk through an established neighborhood where your builder has built houses within 1-3 years (5-8 years would not be a bad idea.) and ask the neighbors about any unresolved warranty issues and how warranty matters were generally handled. Do not rely on the builder's representations. Before the contract is signed, it is still YOUR money.
Try to determine the number of new house owners, in your chosen housing development, who are non-occupants, employees, related parties, or country club acqaintances of the corporate/public new house builder.
Ask your builder how many of their valued 'customers' they've required to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement as a requirement for the new house buyer to receive a warranty settlement as a condition for having work done that should have been covered under any reasonable warranty by the benevolent, fair minded, our interests are your interests, new house builder?
Do not let your warm, tingly, feelings about your future new house, cloud your judgement. Don't fall in love with something that can't love you back. Until you are a satisfied homeowner, your house is nothing more than assembled building materials with a hefty mortgage, with the potential to become more of a nightmare than a dream.
Also, ask the builder's representative how many times houseowners have had to file a lawsuit against them in an attempt to get warranty issues resolved. Be willing to wait for an answer. Then verify the answer you receive independently.
Also, ask for a copy of the Limited Warranty Agreement including all Exhibits and read them. Mainly, get the warranty documents. Do this before any money changes hands. This will show you the position you will be in when problems arise.
Ensure that your new house builder pays THEIR SHARE of YOUR first year's realestate property taxes.
Ask your builder if they are aware if any of their former customers have had to commit some type of fraud in the completion of a Residential Property Disclosure Statement, or to otherwise have to pay for remediation of a house problem that was legitimately the responsibility of the new house builder, and as a result of the new house builder's overt or subtle act of ignoring a valid new house warranty claim?
Ask the builder if they have a 'Standards of Construction' document. Some builders may now call this document, Performance Quality Standards. Some builders may call this document by another name, but its contents will be the same. Obtain this and read it. Pay particular attention to the term, 'standards of the industry' (the lower the 'standard of the industry', the easier it is to meet the standard; which allows for the acceptability of shoddy construction under the protective excuse of the 'industry standard'). This will give you an indication of the quality of your new house deemed acceptable by the corporate/public new house builder. Do not assume that your new house will be of the same quality as the builder's models. Some people may view this as being similar to 'bait & switch' practices within the retail industry.
An independent, pre-closing house inspection will not protect your interests regarding leaking windows (wind-driven rain is not considered to be a 'defect' according to the NAHB 'book' of construction defects[try proving what is, and what is not, wind-driven rain when your house has leaks]), a leaky roof, a faulty foundation, settling/heaving/shifting concrete flatwork, or other long term consequences of shoddy construction and other cost cutting measures.
Ask YOUR ATTORNEY to modify/delete the arbitration clause. If the builder is not willing to do this go elsewhere, or require that monies be escrowed to protect your interests. NOTHING in the documents you sign is designed to protect YOUR interests aside from the transfer of title. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will no longer purchase mortgages when the sale contract contains an arbitration clause. This should speak volumes about the risks involved in the purchase of a new house.
ENSURE THAT YOUR ATTORNEY, IF YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION REGARDING ANY ASPECT OF YOUR NEW HOUSE, IS NOT A SHILL FOR THE NEW HOUSE BUILDER. Ask the attorney if he has represented, or is currently representing, other clients in actions against the builder? Has he ever filed a lawsuit against the builder? Has he ever participated in an arbitration with the builder? Has he ever refused an arbitration with the builder? Has he ever offered his representation to the client pro bono (no charge), if his client agreed to accept the terms of the corporate/public new house builder's settlement offer (the reason being because the attorney "liked" the client)? Has he dropped a case because his client determined that the repairs required were beyond the realm of "cosmetic" as touted and advocated by the new house builder and stated a "full schedule" as the reason for dropping the client's case? Has he ever not collected on a final invoice for legal services rendered because of his CLIENT'S REFUSAL to pay (this may be an indication of the client's satisfaction with the legal services provided or the magnanimity of the attorney)? And, what were the circumstances and results of any of these actions and proceedings? Do not assume that your attorney or the builder will behave in an honorable manner. For further insight see kbhomesucks.com, Online Discussion, User Forum, page 4/5 Choosing An Attorney.
Review your closing documents for restrictions which may prevent you from publicly expressing your pleasure or displeasure with your new house purchase. For example: yard signs, petitions, picketing, Internet posting, letters to the editor, etc.; anything which may be an attempt to confine your experience and opinion to your household.
Do not assume that you are dealing with honorable people. Get an independent, second opinion regarding ANYTHING of substance related to your new house; however, at this point it may be too late. YOUR interests are YOUR interests, only.
Do not let the largest purchase of your family's life become a financial and emotional nightmare. How much are you willing to risk? Financial security in your retirement? Your kids' college education?
Learn from my mistake (One would not think that the purchase of a new house for one's family could possibly be a mistake.) the mistakes of other new house buyers, and the behavior of some corporate/public new house builders.
IN MY OPINION, WHICH IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, THERE IS NOT A LEGAL PRODUCT AVAILABLE IN THE MARKETPLACE TODAY THAT CARRIES THE DEGREE OF POTENTIAL FINANCIAL AND EMOTIONAL RISK FOR THE PURCHASER AS DOES THAT OF A NEW HOUSE.
Visit Homeowners Against Deficient Dwellings, HADD.com, HOBB.org, Homeowners For Better Building, WESH.com, Building Houses: Building Problems, Consumer Reports' research study: Housewrecked--link available at the HADD web site, 10 Things Your House Builder Won't Tell You, www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=tenthings-jan00, 10 Things Your Attorney Won't Tell You, www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=tenthings-october03, How To Prevent A New House Nightmare, www.lakesidepress.com/dreams/section4.html, Shoddy Building in the Housing Boom? Business Week April 25, 2003, www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/apr2003/nf20030425_1874_db035.htm, Exposing New Home Builders, exposingnewhomebuilders.typepad.com/newhomebuildersnewsblog/ (some builder specific web sites have been effectively eliminated), ourrylandhomes.com(use google.com for this one: our ryland homes), paltryhomes.com, jdpowers.com, kbhomesucks.com, kbhomestink.org, The Pulte Home Experience, www.trendzweb.com/pulte/., paylessbills.com/richmond_american.htm, drhortonlemonhome.com, drhortonsux.com, mybadhouse.com/pages/1/index.htm, Home sweet crooked house, money.cnn.com/2004/06/09/real_estate/buying_selling/homedefects/index.htm, bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/20040812a1.asp, Monday, June 21
New-home warranties not what they are cracked up to be bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/BuyerGuide2004/fthb-blog-archive.asp, webgripesites.com, mymccrearyhomesucks.com/, w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff76506.htm, Home-building report/broken system, www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050420/OPINION/504200384/1030, www.screwedcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000331.html, and ANY search engine (new house construction, lawsuits, defects, complaints, etc.), to examine the 'ISOLATED','ANECDOTAL' nature of this issue, to separate 'FACT' from 'INNUENDO', and to gain insight into the business practices of the corporate/public new house building industry, and to protect your financial and emotional interests. Reading the court cases available on-line is a good idea, too.
Your due diligence is only effective BEFORE the fact.
I wish you well.
Read more: To access the following, copy and paste the quote below into a Google search.
www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/7803801.htm
"Hovnanian's letter to the homeowners claims that 'when there is a problem, we make things right,' " Spatz said. "After several years and a long legal battle, I am still waiting for that to happen."
Believe what you want. Protect your interests before the fact. Do not make the mistake that I did. Justice delayed, justice denied?
"Freedom, democracy, rule of law, these are the safeguards for coping with human nature",Clifford May, president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. |
Cindy McCain
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posted 7 July 2005 22:26 CET
My husband and I purchased a new condo 7/22/04 and cannot get the builder to come fix anything. Our floors are not level, they left what appears to be a piece of a tool in the grout in the bathroom. That is not our REAL PROBLEM now, there has been a water leak (this could have been going on for a year) from behind our refrigator (hooked up by a licensed plumber that the builder hired) in the wall and has completely destroyed our wood floor. Infront of our sofa there is a place where the floor buckled up 4 inches. The kitchen cabinet that holds the sink has some black mold growing on it. Less than a week ago our six year old daughter was diagnosed with some health problems and we are concerned that this problem has been going on for quiet some time with the water. When I contacted the builder he basically in "not-so-nice" words told me it was not his problem. We have had to move out of our condo. If anyone has any ideas on what we can do please e-mail me. Because of our living conditions it may take me a day or two to check my e-mail. We are not the only owners that has had problems with this builder. Please if anyone could advise me what to do I would really appreciate it. |
Tammy Konopko
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posted 7 July 2005 16:33 CET
Please help - our developer refuses to turn over to assocation - we all went to the mayor and no response. He raised our assocation fees and refuses to allow us to see the contracts and bills. HELP !! Many problems in each unit - develope refuses to take our calls. HELP !! BLACK MOLD in unts, buckling floors, etc. Building barely 1 year old. |
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